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the defense official says with the number of potential hostage takers it would be an extremely dangerous assault mission. they are hoping there is some sort of diplomatic solution to the crisis. >> certainly a shock to many how quickly it happened. we have been trying to understand what happened and when these workers were seized on their way to work or what was happening. what can you tell us about the moment they were taken? and given the u.s. government was very quick to say in this case they believed this was an organized and preplanned attack. >> you're exactly right. here is what we know from the minister who says an oil field in southern algeria was attacked by militants. several hostages were taken there. this is an oil field about 40 miles from the border of libya. a group of westerners were on their way to the airport where they were attacked. alg alger security forces fired back. the militants retreated and there they took more hostages. although the group has claimed responsibility and said it did so out of retaliation for algeria allowing the french to use the air space for
the defense official says with the number of potential hostage takers it would be an extremely dangerous assault mission. they are hoping there is some sort of diplomatic solution to the crisis. >> certainly a shock to many how quickly it happened. we have been trying to understand what happened and when these workers were seized on their way to work or what was happening. what can you tell us about the moment they were taken? and given the u.s. government was very quick to say in this...
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both prosecution and defense maintain his activities were not the motive behind his killing but the defense argues that the child was exposed to violence at a young age. looks like he'll be held in some kind of detention facility until he's 23 years old. >>> a wisconsin woman who once weighed 425 pounds -- take a look at your screen right now -- she's now competing in triathlons. >> good for her. >> amy smith said her weight caused complications when her second daughter was born, so she had gastric bypass surgery. look at her. then she started working out. just one year later and smith has already completed two triathlons and two half marathons. >> my knees hurt, my back hurt, and i had high blood pressure. i was prediabetic. you know, i was going down a bad path. there's a group of us out there that have had weight loss surgery who are athletes now. i can say it. i never was comfortable saying that. >> oh, you are an athlete. you go, amy. now that she considers herself an athlete, amy smith's new goal is to participate in the elite iron man competition. >> god species, lady. >> yes. we lov
both prosecution and defense maintain his activities were not the motive behind his killing but the defense argues that the child was exposed to violence at a young age. looks like he'll be held in some kind of detention facility until he's 23 years old. >>> a wisconsin woman who once weighed 425 pounds -- take a look at your screen right now -- she's now competing in triathlons. >> good for her. >> amy smith said her weight caused complications when her second daughter was...
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i think the defense will be a fight. that will be fun to watch. >> let's talk about guns. i have been talking about this a lot. particularly since sandy hook, but before that. you're an independent in many ways, but what do you make of the gun debate. i'll tell you why i ask. in britain, it's not a political thing, never has been. never left or right. it's more of a human reaction when things happen, we have to do something. why is it so political in america? >> it's a part, i think, of how our country was formed. we did have to take up arms to form our country. >> to get rid of us. >> i didn't want to say it, but if you're going to bring it up, yeah, to get you guys out. there's that. it's in our constitution. look, i own a gun. you know, i'm gone a lot. i have a wife, i have two kids. i know how to keep them. they're in a gun safe. >> how many do you have? >> three. >> what type? >> i don't have an assault weapon. >> you have handguns? >> exactly. and i'm a sportsman. and i shoot skeet, and i grew up in the midwest. that's a part of my culture. i understand them in a way
i think the defense will be a fight. that will be fun to watch. >> let's talk about guns. i have been talking about this a lot. particularly since sandy hook, but before that. you're an independent in many ways, but what do you make of the gun debate. i'll tell you why i ask. in britain, it's not a political thing, never has been. never left or right. it's more of a human reaction when things happen, we have to do something. why is it so political in america? >> it's a part, i...
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call the police, is that there is a window of imminent threat that's recognized by our law of self defense that says the government's monopoly on violence is something that we create an exception to. >> here is my response. i don't think anybody in this room, or very, very few people -- >> legitimate violence. >> government's monopoly on violence? >> no, the government has a monopoly on legitimate violence. the government can execute people, can imprison people. when you go into a civilized society, the idea is that only the government can use violence. >> let me interrupt here. i think we're drifting slightly off point. most people in this room have no issue with americans having a gun at home to defend themselves. i come back to, scotie, of what i said earlier. what is the purpose and the need of an ar-15 that can have a magazine of 100 bullets? nobody can give me any reason why a civilian needs that. your explanation appears to be you fear a tyrannical government of attacking you. >> i have the right. that's my first explanation. i have the right. hundreds of thousands of men and women
call the police, is that there is a window of imminent threat that's recognized by our law of self defense that says the government's monopoly on violence is something that we create an exception to. >> here is my response. i don't think anybody in this room, or very, very few people -- >> legitimate violence. >> government's monopoly on violence? >> no, the government has a monopoly on legitimate violence. the government can execute people, can imprison people. when you...
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i saw you launch a spirited defense of matt lauer. he is taking a pummelling. brutal morning battles. >> what sells more papers or more clicks online than the negative? that's -- they have to -- look, there is a lot of schadenfreude. good on gma. good for them. the fact of the matter is i've known matt lauer since 1990. i've worked with him in local news. and he is a terrific human being. he is a great person. he had nothing to do with anything that happened on our show. was it a great thing that anne left? no. we were all heartbroken about it. but the fact of the matter is she is still at nbc news, contrary to what people are reading about her coming over here. she is still at nbc news. she has a unit, a whole unit to do the stories that she does best. so, you know, at the end of the day, it's not the worst thing to get a kick in the slats. >> ask you that. you've been there a long time. do you feel it's got you all energized again? >> look, we were always energized. but we feel like this is what we do. we're not changing what we do. we're just going to work a
i saw you launch a spirited defense of matt lauer. he is taking a pummelling. brutal morning battles. >> what sells more papers or more clicks online than the negative? that's -- they have to -- look, there is a lot of schadenfreude. good on gma. good for them. the fact of the matter is i've known matt lauer since 1990. i've worked with him in local news. and he is a terrific human being. he is a great person. he had nothing to do with anything that happened on our show. was it a great...
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for self-defense and likes to know that i have that security they're a lot easier to fire than other rifles with the recoil. >> you think all women should be armed with ar-15s? >> my goodness, are you going to go off on a tangent every time i say one thing? come on, now, piers. stay with me. stay here with me. >> i'm trying to find out what you believe. >> i'm trying to explain it to you, but you keep putting words in my mouth every time try. so stop, let me finish and we'll get somewhere with this. an ar-15, honestly, it's just like any other rifle. i don't understand why some individuals can become so scared of this, because they think it's a scary-looking weapon. it's not. this is not the military assault rifle that fully automatic or capable of select fire. >> it shot 17 americans in a movie heater in 90 seconds. it murdered a group of new york state firemen. >> there are pistols made by armor light. >> this particular weapon has been used in the last four mass shootings. >> how are law abiding americans responsible for that, piers? how are law abiding citizens like me responsibl
for self-defense and likes to know that i have that security they're a lot easier to fire than other rifles with the recoil. >> you think all women should be armed with ar-15s? >> my goodness, are you going to go off on a tangent every time i say one thing? come on, now, piers. stay with me. stay here with me. >> i'm trying to find out what you believe. >> i'm trying to explain it to you, but you keep putting words in my mouth every time try. so stop, let me finish and...
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i want to play his defense before you jump in here. here he is. >> the fact of the matter is that the schools in washington that are attended by the elites, not just president's daughters but the sons and daughters of others are protected by armed security. not the secret service. >> is the white house taking this too personally or overreacting? >> i have met david keen and his wife. the ad is pathetic. the nra are a bunch of punks for running the ad. if they stand behind it, why are they removing it from their website. they are getting what they wanted. they put a youtube add up. we're talking about it. it gets out there. it shows you how weak and cowardly they are when they chose to run away from it. there is no need to invoke the president's daughters in this conversation. i can guarantee you that had anybody invoked the daughters of president george w. bush in a similar ad, folks on the right would be just as upset. >> what about the fact that politicians use kids when they want to politically all the time. remember can chelsea cli
i want to play his defense before you jump in here. here he is. >> the fact of the matter is that the schools in washington that are attended by the elites, not just president's daughters but the sons and daughters of others are protected by armed security. not the secret service. >> is the white house taking this too personally or overreacting? >> i have met david keen and his wife. the ad is pathetic. the nra are a bunch of punks for running the ad. if they stand behind it,...
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so that is saproblem. >> we're also learning from defense officials, the u.s. is increasing its role in the conflict in mali. how so, because the french were the ones on the ground? >> the french are positioned there because they do have bases and they have a history in algeria. the united states has now agreed they will help with air lifts. that means bringing in french troops into, not necessarily directly into mali, but into some of the surrounding areas. right now in mali, they have -- it's difficult to get everyone who needs to get in there. there will be, we understand, some 2,500 french forces. there are some african forces that are going to go in, but the french still want other things. they want some refueling capability and some intelligence and the u.s. is talking about that right now. >> all right, jill, appreciate the update. i want to get you caught up on some of the other stories we're following. >> fbi director robert mueller met with libyan officials in tripoli about the deadly attack at the u.s. consulate in benghazi last september. a lawense
so that is saproblem. >> we're also learning from defense officials, the u.s. is increasing its role in the conflict in mali. how so, because the french were the ones on the ground? >> the french are positioned there because they do have bases and they have a history in algeria. the united states has now agreed they will help with air lifts. that means bringing in french troops into, not necessarily directly into mali, but into some of the surrounding areas. right now in mali, they...
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they have the resources if they would provide defense on their own. the point was, they made the decision not to do it. why i do not know. and we intend to find out. because this is going to continue to be an ongoing question. as are embassies come under attack in north africa and around the world. al qaeda is targeting. >> fascinating to see what will come out of hearing. congressman royce, thank you for your time. >> appreciate it. >> talking about the housing market. good news from christine romans. gloom and doom over the past few years on this. what does it mean on the overall recovery? we're live in davos with what economists saying about that. that ahead. >>> welcome back. chris frates joins us, connie mack from the great state of florida. your wife broke her wrist, wow. >> skiing in colorado. >> goodness. tell her we hope she is on the mend and fast. we'll talk about some powerful and happy statistics on home sales. christine romans, only been giving bad news about this. >> been giving you good news. >> now good news. and poppy harlow also wit
they have the resources if they would provide defense on their own. the point was, they made the decision not to do it. why i do not know. and we intend to find out. because this is going to continue to be an ongoing question. as are embassies come under attack in north africa and around the world. al qaeda is targeting. >> fascinating to see what will come out of hearing. congressman royce, thank you for your time. >> appreciate it. >> talking about the housing market. good...
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. >> jill, i know defense secretary panetta has made a statement about it today. is it possible the u.s. might take military action? >> they might if they want to fry -- try to save the people held in there hostage. there are two reasons this group is giving for having carried out this act. they say it is retaliation for algeria giving france the ability to fly over algerian territory. bringing as part of this military operation in mali. but the other thing they say is they want the release of their own prisoners who are being held. a little unclear why they're being held, et cetera. but the u.s. officials we've been speaking to believe that this was not just some type of opportunistic thing, that it was planned in advance, at least to some degree. >> right now, you have had a failed french commando raid to release a french hostage in somalia which didn't get a lot of attention. that happened several days ago. two commandos were killed as well as apparently the hostage. how difficult an operation would it be to actually send folks in there? >> it would be extremel
. >> jill, i know defense secretary panetta has made a statement about it today. is it possible the u.s. might take military action? >> they might if they want to fry -- try to save the people held in there hostage. there are two reasons this group is giving for having carried out this act. they say it is retaliation for algeria giving france the ability to fly over algerian territory. bringing as part of this military operation in mali. but the other thing they say is they want the...
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fran, i want to ask you about something defense secretary leon panetta has said. part of this you just heard from chris lawrence, but i have another part that i want you and our viewers to hear. here is leon panetta. >> terrorists should be on notice that they will find no sanctuary, no refuge, not in algeria, not in north africa, not anywhere. we've got to go after al qaeda wherever the hell they're at and make sure they find no place to hide. >> i know he means it, but the problem is that was in december. this is now. they've been saying that after they were saying al qaeda was on the run. now they're saying we're going to go after them. but yet are we going after them? are the terrorists at this point feeling the united states says this, but what are they doing? >> i'm sure they do because, as you say, the passage of time. let's be clear, sometimes it's very hard to strike back right away. fbi director bob mueller was in libya talking to the investigators this week. i expect that the investigation is going on. but remember after the east africa embassy bombings
fran, i want to ask you about something defense secretary leon panetta has said. part of this you just heard from chris lawrence, but i have another part that i want you and our viewers to hear. here is leon panetta. >> terrorists should be on notice that they will find no sanctuary, no refuge, not in algeria, not in north africa, not anywhere. we've got to go after al qaeda wherever the hell they're at and make sure they find no place to hide. >> i know he means it, but the problem...
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defense secretary leon panetta is calling it a terrorist attack. the hostages were taken when about 20 extremists attacked a gas field. this is a file picture of the field. it's in the eastern part of algeria. it's partly owned by the energy company bp. now algeria's interior minister said that two people were killed in the attack. it's believed to be retaliation for algeria's support for the french offensive in mali. a u.s. state department official said that as many as ten americans were work at the oil field. the state department hasn't said how many of them right now may be hostages. we are told a special operations team is standing by, quote, on a very short string. obviously this is a very fluid situation. i'm joined no by cnn foreign affairs correspondent jill dougherty and former cia officer bob baer. jill, you've been working your sources today. what is the latest? >> we believe obviously this happened at a gas field. if you look at the map, it's in eastern algeria. that's 37 miles from the libyan border. and that's important because they
defense secretary leon panetta is calling it a terrorist attack. the hostages were taken when about 20 extremists attacked a gas field. this is a file picture of the field. it's in the eastern part of algeria. it's partly owned by the energy company bp. now algeria's interior minister said that two people were killed in the attack. it's believed to be retaliation for algeria's support for the french offensive in mali. a u.s. state department official said that as many as ten americans were work...
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defense secretary leon panetta addressed the situation today. what can you tell us about that today? britain and the united states was unaware the raid was actually happening? >> that's one sort of slightly disturbing aspect of this. david cameron, part of the statement he made, was he was in almost constant contact with algerian prime minister. spoke with him four dimes in the day leading up to the situation to free the hostages. coordinating with the leaders of other countries involved and the united states among them. and david cameron has been talking to president obama about probably sharing their confusion about the situation on the ground, and that very remote part of algeria. leon pan etta has come out, saying he and the rest of the defense department is working around the clock to bring the situation to a happy ending. >> and matthew, another question, and i apologize if you already addressed it, but i'm trying to read the latest details coming out. do we know the number of americans? any clarity on that? >> no, we don't is the short an
defense secretary leon panetta addressed the situation today. what can you tell us about that today? britain and the united states was unaware the raid was actually happening? >> that's one sort of slightly disturbing aspect of this. david cameron, part of the statement he made, was he was in almost constant contact with algerian prime minister. spoke with him four dimes in the day leading up to the situation to free the hostages. coordinating with the leaders of other countries involved...
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. >> reporter: defense secretary leon panetta issued a warning to those running training camps. >> terrorists should be on notice. that they will find no sanctuary, no refuge, not in algeria, not in north africa, not anywhere. >> reporter: so far, this al qaeda group has been focused in africa. but counterterrorism officials are concerned that if these training camps continue to flourish, their ambitions may expand. libya is right on the southern shore of the mediterranean. and officials are concerned that militants could try for an attack in europe or european militants could come to libya, get training, and then try to carry out an attack back home. erin? >> thanks very much to chris lawrence. fran townsend as former home land counterterrorism advisor to george bush. stewart holladay, special political affairs at the united nations. stewart, let me start with you. in chris' reporting there there was a sound bite from president obama from a very different time. but that sound bite, he said libya is a success, it's a lesson in success of how to do these things. was that premature, given what
. >> reporter: defense secretary leon panetta issued a warning to those running training camps. >> terrorists should be on notice. that they will find no sanctuary, no refuge, not in algeria, not in north africa, not anywhere. >> reporter: so far, this al qaeda group has been focused in africa. but counterterrorism officials are concerned that if these training camps continue to flourish, their ambitions may expand. libya is right on the southern shore of the mediterranean....
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and russia about missile defense here that is supposed to be set up in europe. so there are a lot of things where the russians are still very wary of the u.s. and also, of course, just trying to get information about what is going on. it is something that is very, very bizarre and strange to think that these countries that are now allies would still be doing this. >> crazy. fred pleitgen, thank you for staying up for us, i'm sure a slightly cold berlin this evening. fred, thank you. >>> police in new york, they are asking pharmacies to stock their shelves with pill bottles fitted with gps tracking chips. we'll tell you why and how this is supposed to work coming up. >>> new york city combatting just about everything these days, and limited the amount of soda you can drink, just put a new huge gun control law in place, and now it is trying to put a gps in prescription painkiller bottles to combat the surge of pharmacy robberies. commissioner ray kelly of nypd saying oxycontin armed thefts are booming and wants to stop it. he's announced this plan to put bait bott
and russia about missile defense here that is supposed to be set up in europe. so there are a lot of things where the russians are still very wary of the u.s. and also, of course, just trying to get information about what is going on. it is something that is very, very bizarre and strange to think that these countries that are now allies would still be doing this. >> crazy. fred pleitgen, thank you for staying up for us, i'm sure a slightly cold berlin this evening. fred, thank you....
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>> well, that's a defense mechanism that we call rationalization. we know that lance armstrong was doping at a time when many people were doping. so he puts it together in his mind if everyone else was doing it, then cancels out that i was doing it and, therefore, i wasn't doing it. that's the mind game that people play with themselves. but that's why we recognize these defense mechanisms as being almost pathological because they're original i had, intense and after a while, they don't work. >> so investigators sayi had, intense and after a while, they don't work. >> so investigators say not only was he doping, but he was forcing other team members to dope and to lie about it and to lie about him. what does this tell but lance armstrong as a person. >> we tend to see, and i'm notice saying he is one of these persons, but we tend to see that sometimes people with personality disorders who may be narcicisstic, they don't change themselves in order to fit the world. they change the world to fit who they are. and certainly we see by getting people aroun
>> well, that's a defense mechanism that we call rationalization. we know that lance armstrong was doping at a time when many people were doping. so he puts it together in his mind if everyone else was doing it, then cancels out that i was doing it and, therefore, i wasn't doing it. that's the mind game that people play with themselves. but that's why we recognize these defense mechanisms as being almost pathological because they're original i had, intense and after a while, they don't...
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what's the public defense for him and what's the legal defense? >> well, he's got a great defense to criminal charges. it's called the statute of limitations. he lied under oath arguably in texas in 2005. if he admits this to oprah tomorrow. and the statute of limitations is gone on that. that leaves one possible area of wire fraud. if you do and engage in a fraudulent act and you use a telephone, the mail, or even television transmission wires to help you in the fraud you commit a federal crime but the last time he was accused of doping, his last race was in 2009. the other allegations go back even farther than that. he may be out of the statute of limitations for federal wire fraud and i'm sure he's discussed it very carefully with his attorneys and decided that although he faces criminal charges, they are unlikely. that leaves the civil charges. those are going to be serious. sponsors who paid millions of dollars for his good name undoubtedly had moral clauses in those contracts and they were deceived and they can sue to get their money back cl
what's the public defense for him and what's the legal defense? >> well, he's got a great defense to criminal charges. it's called the statute of limitations. he lied under oath arguably in texas in 2005. if he admits this to oprah tomorrow. and the statute of limitations is gone on that. that leaves one possible area of wire fraud. if you do and engage in a fraudulent act and you use a telephone, the mail, or even television transmission wires to help you in the fraud you commit a...
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you also have defense secretary leon panetta, here he is in london, giving his thoughts on the situation in algeria. >> terrorists should be on notice that they will find no sanctuary, no refuge, not in algeria, not in north africa, not anywhere. >> want to bring in jim clancy, our veteran journalist, covered conflicts all around the world. let's begin with, we keep saying this situation is so fluid, still so many details, what do we know right now? >> right now the latest that we have got, algerian press services reporting 12 foreign hostages have been killed, since the start of this operation. >> 12. >> but they say that's a provisional toll. it would be a low number in my estimation, and we have to still wait and see. we know some are still being held. mauritanian news services reporting there has been an office to swap hostages, the american hostages for a couple of hostages that are held right here in u.s. prisons. and one of them would be omar abdul rahman, the so-called blind sheikh who was charged in the 1993 bombing of the world trade center. he's serving a life sentence. and a
you also have defense secretary leon panetta, here he is in london, giving his thoughts on the situation in algeria. >> terrorists should be on notice that they will find no sanctuary, no refuge, not in algeria, not in north africa, not anywhere. >> want to bring in jim clancy, our veteran journalist, covered conflicts all around the world. let's begin with, we keep saying this situation is so fluid, still so many details, what do we know right now? >> right now the latest...
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a senior defense official tells me now that defense secretary leon panetta has assured americans that the u.s. military will take all necessary and proper steps to deal with this attack. what could that mean? most importantly, the pentagon's africa command has what is called a commander and extremist force. it's a small, very lethal force that is dedicated to hostage rescue and counterterrorism. they are at an undisclosed location but we're told they are on a very, very short window to be put into action. now, expanding out just a little bit, take a look at the map, look at where algeria is. look at where this oil facility is. you can take a look in italy, the u.s. has air bases in italy which they could use a cargo lift, they could also use surveillance plates from there and they also have about 150 marines that are trained in crisis intervention in italy and also as we move over to rota, spain, there are two marine corps anti-terrorism bases there. further out, if necessary, back here on the east coast, all u.s. special operations forces are operating on about a four-hour window to
a senior defense official tells me now that defense secretary leon panetta has assured americans that the u.s. military will take all necessary and proper steps to deal with this attack. what could that mean? most importantly, the pentagon's africa command has what is called a commander and extremist force. it's a small, very lethal force that is dedicated to hostage rescue and counterterrorism. they are at an undisclosed location but we're told they are on a very, very short window to be put...